My great grandparents on my dad's side are missing a marriage certificate as well. I have been doing geneology for a long time and one does not exist so I don't want to hear any rubbish about it getting lost in a fire. My cousin (once removed) has been looking for it as well. We tracked every other movement in their life but there was no marriage certificate. Then, all of a sudden the 1922 census comes out and it stated my great grandmother as single even though she had six children by this time.
And here is another thing. My great, great, great grandmother had her first child out of the bonds of holy matrimony. *gasp* She was 17 when she had her daughter who was likely stashed at her mother's house and raised there. A year later she married the father of this child who was 15 years her senior. Quite the scandal.
You may have been able to be indiscreet 100 years ago but it catches up with you when nosy family historians start scrounging through family records. It is all there in black and white. Or not there as the case may be.
And here is the last family scandal I will leave you with. My paternal grandfather left my grandmother with three children under the age of 4. Just got up and left. He phoned 30 years later, for what reason I am not sure. From snooping around I suspect that he was gay and was just not able to fit into the role of husband. It must have been awful for him before it became too much of a lie. We can judge but I think if I had to be in a relationship with a woman I would take off too. Being heterosexual I can't imagine living in a homosexual relationship. It must have been hell for him to be with a woman. Seventy years ago you didn't come out of the closet and hope your family and friends accepted you. Instead he took off and lived a life on the streets of Vancouver until he had a fall and died of a head injury. From talking to family he was also an alcoholic and physically abusive. When he left, my grandma (at 19 years old) went back to her mom and dad, the ones who didn't have the marriage certificate. They accepted her back into their home with open arms with her three small children. My aunt remembers feeling very safe and loved. Which proves you don't need a damn certificate to be loving and do what is right.



My paternal grandmother was born out of wedlock too in Victorian times. She had quite a hard early life because of it. When her mother married, the husband didn't want to raise "another man's child" so my grandma got shunted off to live with various relatives. She was basically used for free labour until she grew up and married.
ReplyDeleteI have been thinking of getting back into genealogy but this does give me pause. lol
ReplyDeleteWould love to be able to get into my family's genealogy. I know there are some amazing stories that are never spoken of. My maternal grandmother was married three times! She lived with her third husband for years before they made it official. I can only imagine the gossip at the time.
ReplyDeleteI agree, no certificate makes you happy. Those two were the most wonderful people, and they were happy which is more than most have.
in 1996 they died 16 days apart. My grandfather couldn't face the world without her. Sad at the time yes, but such a beautiful story of their love.
That is some genealogy gold!!!
ReplyDeleteI have an aunt who was raised as my grandma's sister, not knowing until she was 14 that her real mom was my slutty (sorry Nanny!) grandma. When Nanny met Grampy, she was pregnant with yet another man's child, but he was raised as my Grampy's son. Families are SO complicated!!!
Who knows what kinds of scandal surely went on in my past? You dug up some history, interesting to think what pain it could have been or hurt feelings
ReplyDeleteConsidering how many families had secrets like that it's amazing people weren't more understanding. Don't get me started on my great grandparents!
ReplyDeleteThat is one heck of an interesting family tree. I love these stories! When we dig into the history of our families, we find all kinds of skeletons. From today's standards, these are not a big deal. But back then...HOLY MOLY...they were the talk of the town.
ReplyDeleteSo many families seem to have more skeletons in the woodwork than they do 'fully fleshed' bodies. Which I love.
ReplyDeleteAnd, speaking of love, how right you are, teamed with ethical behaviour it is worth much, much more than any certificate.
That is so true -- one shouldn't need laws or legal obligations to be loving or do the right thing. The women in your family sound so spunky and like they knew exactly what they wanted, to heck with society and the norm. My own grandparents and great-grandparents had their own exciting dramas and soap operas -- are we perhaps in some ways more tame now?
ReplyDeleteWe have a case in our family of brothers marrying cousins, and then I think the other family married back in again a generation or so later. It definitely makes for a hard to read family tree.
ReplyDeleteMy maternal Grandfather left my very pregnant Grandmother and two other children for another woman who was also pregnant, I have an aunt and uncle who are the same age.
ReplyDeleteBack then they did try and hide things, but yes, things come out.
It's all so fascinating isn't it? Sad how social "norms" and expectations trap people. Though things have moved on thankfully, in some cultures (and parts of our own), they realy havn't changed that much! Mr G has cousins marrying in his family tree. My Great Grandfather left his family and disappeared never to resurface again. I guess I could trace his movements if I really put my mind to it.
ReplyDeleteMy uncle lived on the streets of Vancouver as well. He was schizophrenic and beaten death in the seventies. Poor bugger.
ReplyDeleteWow! That is some fascinating stuff.
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